Are you related to the LINES or CRACKNELL families from Barnet in Hertfordshire?

Another recent lovely old photographic postcard find was of three young children in front of a photographer’s set of a boat and to me they looked they could be siblings – could I discover more?

On the back were a few scribbled pencil notes, as below, LINES, 11 Union Street, Barnet a copy – was this the photographer’s name and address or possibly a family link?

I started my research by looking to see if there were electoral roll records for n II Union Street in Barnet that showed a LINES family and bingo I struck lucky. I found a 1930 electoral roll record, as below, for a Walter Edmund LINES living at 11 Union Street.

Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives; London, England; London City Directories Source Information: Ancestry.com. London, England, City Directories, 1736-1943

Using Walter Edmund LINES I found his marriage in the January quarter of 1918 in Barnet Registration District to Daisy CRACKNELL and from this information I found three LINES children born as follows:

Doris M LINES in the March quarter of 1922, Olive K LINES in the September quarter of 1923 and Eric E LINES in the September quarter of 1925 – two girls and a boy in the right age order to match the children in my old photograph, meaning it must have been taken around 1930.

Using this information I then found the LINES family on the 1939 World WAR 2 register living in Barnet, as below, with the entry for Doris currently redacted – Walter’s occupation shown as a Lloyds Insurance Clerk and teh dates of birth for the family members shown were confirmed as Walter 15th July 1893, Daisy 21st November 1893, Olive 25th September 1923 and Eric as 7th July 1925.

I then found the 1911 census records for Walter Edmund LINES and Daisy LINES nee CRACKNELL, again as below – the CRACKNELL family were living at 13 Union Street in Barnet.

LINES Family 1911

Source Citation: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1911 Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census

CRACKNELL Family 1911 living at 13 Union Street in Barnet

Source Citation: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1911 Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census 

Do you have a connection to the LINES or CRACKNELL families from Barnet? If you do please send me a message as it would be fantastic to reunite this old photograph with a family member if possible.

Many thanks

Simon LAST

http://www.charnwood-genealogy.com

charnwoodresearch@virginmedia.com

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Are you related to Reverend Gordon Percy PROCTOR or Francis Bartlett PROCTOR from Gloucestershire and Norfolk?

Another lovely old photograph postcard I found back in July 2019 shows a smart young man in uniform and written on the back it says – Andrew Leslie PROCTOR, son of Gordon Percy PROCTOR and Grandson of Francis Bartlett PROCTOR.

I started my research by looking for Andrew’s father Gordon Percy PROCTOR and found that he was indeed the son of Francis Bartlett PROCTOR and that both men had been clerks in Holy Orders as shown on the marriage certificate, as below, that I found for Gordon who married Edith Neale SUTCLIFFE on 31st January 1905 in Salterhebble in Yorkshire – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salterhebble

Source Citation: West Yorkshire Archive Service; Leeds, Yorkshire, England; Yorkshire Parish Records; Reference Number: WDP63/1/2/2 Source Information: Ancestry.com. West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935

George was aged 38 living at 20 John Street in Kingston Square in Hull in Yorkshire and Edith was aged 24 and living at Stafford House in Halifax in Yorkshire.

The 1911 census, as below, shows the PROCTOR family living at 19 Arboretum Street in Derby in Derbyshire and Gordon had been born in Cheltenham in Gloucestershire and his wife Edith in Halifax in Yorkshire – they now had two children Hugh Gordon PROCTOR aged 2 and Zoe Marion PROCTOR aged under one month.

Source Citation: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1911 Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census 

Taking the research further and looking for other children I found that Andrew Leslie PROCTOR had been born on the 30th November 1918 in Derby Registration District.

I then found Andrew on the 1939 World War 2 Registers aged 21 and single living in Leek in Staffordshire and his occupation is shown as History Student – from this I found many records for Andrew travelling overseas between 1945 and 1957. when I discovered a Probate record for him, as below.

This record stated that he had died on 25th December 1957 aged 39 at the General Hospital in Singapore whilst working for the Borneo Company Limited – his Executor was named as his brother the Reverend Hugh Gordon PROCTOR. There is further information about the Borneo Company Limited here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borneo_Company_Limited

Amazingly I had written about a SUTCLIFFE family in Yorkshire before which mentioned a Kate Neale SUTCLIFFE, so is there a connection to Edith Neale SUTCLIFFE https://charnwoodgenealogy.wordpress.com/2019/07/29/do-you-have-a-sutcliffe-palethorpe-or-pinder-in-your-family-tree – more investigation needed and update to follow in due course, however quick investigation points to Edith being Kate’s daughter and older sister to Leslie and Kate mentioned in the previous blog and old photograph!!

Do you have a link to the PROCTOR family? – if so please send me a message as it would be great to reunite this old photograph of Andrew with a family member if possible.

Many thanks

Simon LAST

http://www.charnwood-genealogy.com

charnwoodresearch@virginmedia.com

Posted in 19 Arboretum Street, Borneo, Cheltenham, Guild of One Name Studies, Norfolk, Old Photograph, PROCTOR, Singapore, SUTCLIFFE, Yorkshire | Leave a comment

Are you related to the CRUICKSHANK Family from Broombrae near Aberdeen in Scotland?

Another lovely old photograph postcard find was this one, as below, of John M B CRUICKSHANK with a date stamp of 3rd July 1918 on the back with the notes Baby CRUICKSHANK Broombrae 19th June.

Turing to the Scotland’s People website I quickly found a birth certificate for John Morton Benzie CRUICKSHANK who was born on the 19th June 1917 in Broombrae in the County of Aberdeen in Scotland – John would have been aged about 11 months in the photograph.

His parents are shown as James CRUICKSHANK a Farmer and Mary Hannah CRUICKSHANK nee MORTON who married on the 30th August 1916 in Aberdeen.

John Morton Benzie CRUICKSHANK married Williamina Isabella IRONSIDE in 1940 in Meldrum, Aberdeenshire in Scotland.

More investigation is needed , but in the meantime do you have a connection to the CRUICKSHANK or MORTON families from Aberdeen in Scotland – if you do please send me a message as it would be great to reunite this lovely old photograph with a family member if possible.

Many thanks

Simon LAST

http://www.charnwood-genealogy.com

charnwoodresearch@virginmedia.com

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UPDATE: Harold Ernest HAWKINS or Ernest Harold HAWKINS?

UPDATE: The information that I discovered about Ernest Harold HAWKINS and the original photograph have now been added to his profile on the H.M.S Hood Roll of Honour website which I am really pleased about and thank the committee of the H.M.S Hood Association so much for doing this – the link is http://www.hmshood.org.uk/crew/database/databaseindividual.php?myrec=1249

Simon

22nd October 2021

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I recently purchased a few old social history postcards from my lovely friends at Old Postcards, who have some fantastic old postcards for sale, so please check them out https://www.oldpostcards4sale.co.uk

I am always on the lookout, as you know, for those photographic postcards that might have names or dates on the back to investigate further – so I was really pleased to find and purchase this one below.

On the back is written: Age 10 months and two weeks Harold Ernest HAWKINS February 16th 1907 – surely I would be able to research these clues and discover more information about Harold!!

I started by looking at the birth registration for April 1906 knowing the exact age of Harold HAWKINS in February 1907, but I could find no match at all – I therefore then decided to search all HAWKINS births registered in the April quarter of 1906 and found a Ernest Harold HAWKINS registered in that quarter in the Portsmouth registration district – was this my man?

Moving on and checking the Ancestry website I searched for Ernest Harold HAWKINS rather than Harold Ernest HAWKINS and found a match in the UK British Army and Navy Birth, Marriage and Death records for an Ernest Harold HAWKINS who died on 24th May 1941 who was born on 6th April 1906 in Portsmouth in Hampshire – this date being an exact match to the 10 months and two weeks written on the reverse of the lovely baby photograph.

Source Citation: The National Archives of the UK; Kew, Surrey, England; Admiralty and predecessors: Office of the Director General of the Medical Department of the Navy and predecessors: Service Registers and Registers of Deaths and Injuries. REGISTERS OF REPORTS OF DEATHS: NAVAL RATINGS.; Class: ADM 104; Piece: Piece 131; Piece Description: Piece 131 (1939 Sept – 1948 June) Source Information: Ancestry.com. UK, British Army and Navy Birth, Marriage and Death Records, 1730-1960

Investigating further on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website file:///C:/Users/simon/Downloads/Shipwright%201St%20Class%20Ernest%20Harold%20Hawkins%20-%20CWGC%20Certificate%20(1).pdf I found that Ernest Harold HAWKINS had been kiiled aged 35 on 24th May 1941 whilst serving as a Shipwright 1st Class on H.M.S Hood which had been sunk by the Germans during World War 2 – the details stated that Ernest was the son of Ernest Loney HAWKINS and Ada Winifred Rose HAWKINS and husband of Liv Borgny HAWKINS of Cosham in Hampshire.

Ernest Harold HAWKINS had signed up the Royal Navy on 7th September 1929 first serving on the ship Constance, as his service records shows below:

Source Citation: The National Archives of the UK; Kew, Surrey, London; Admiralty: Royal Navy Seamen’s Services Continuous Record (CR) Cards; Class: ADM 363; Piece: 172 Source Information; Ancestry.com. UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen’s Services, 1848-1939

From this I then found the 1911 Census that shows Ernest Harold HAWKINS aged 5 living with his parents Ernest Loney aged 26 and Ada Winifred Rose HAWKINS aged 24 at 273 Twyford Avenue, North End, Stamshaw in Portsmouth – father Ernest was an Electrician in the Royal Navy and had been married to Ada for six years with Ernest being their only son at that time.

Source Citation: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1911 Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census

Ernest Loney HAWKINS had married Ada Winifred Rose HALES in the January quarter of 1906 in Portsmouth registration district.

Moving back to Ernest Harold HAWKINS he had married Liv Borgny OLSEN in the October quarter of 1932, again in the Portsmouth registration district – on further investigation Liv Borgny OLSEN had been in Norway and I will investigate this further.

Knowing that Ernest Harold HAWKINS had been killed on H.M.S Hood during World War 2 I searched for further information on the internet and found a website with a Roll of Honour to those sadly killed in action and the entry for Ernest HAWKINS has a photograph – is their a resemblance to the baby photograph? H.M.S Hood website link http://www.hmshood.com/crew/memorial/h/HawkinsEH.htm

There is further information about the sinking of H.M.S Hood on 24th May 1941 during World War 2 here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Hood

So if you have a link or connection to the HAWKINS family from Portsmouth please send me a message as it would be great to reunite this lovely old photograph with a family member if possible.

Many thanks

Simon LAST

http://www.charnwood-genealogy.com

charnwoodresearch@virginmedia.com

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UPDATE – Photo Reunited: Are you connected to the BOGIE Family from Kilwinning in Scotland?

UPDATE: This lovely old photograph has now been reunited with the BOGIE family – if you are also interested in or have a connection to the BOGIE surname there is a One Name Study project into the surname and you can find more information here https://one-name.org/name_profile/bogie

Many thanks

Simon

12th October 2021

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Another great find at the recent Woking Postcard Fair was this lovely old photograph of two young boys taken at the John Wood Studio in Port Glasgow in Scotland, which when turned over had names written on the back. There is more information about Port Glasgow here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Glasgow

The names are Alexander BOGIE aged 5 and a half years and Archie Gray BOGIE aged 2 and a half years and under that someone has written 1919.

Unlike my usual research on Ancestry I started by looking at the Scotland’s People website and quickly found a match for both boys births: –

Alexander BOGIE was born on the 25th November 1914 in Kilwinning in Ayrshire in Scotland and Archibald Gray BOGIE was born on the 21st May 1917 also in Kilwinning in Ayrshire in Scotland – copies of both birth certificates are shown below.

Alexander BOGIE Scottish Birth Certificate 1914

Archibald Gray BOGIE Scottish Birth Certificate 1917

Their parents were John Alexander BOGIE and Jean Kerr BOGIE nee GRAY and they married on 14th December 1910 in Kilwinning in Ayrshire in Scotland – Father’s occupation is shown as a Bank Clerk.

Further investigation has shown that Alexander BOGIE married Mairead Sine LLOYD on the 23rd August 1947 and that he died on 26th December 1981 in Scotland – Archibald Gray BOGIE married Muriel Gertrude PLUMSTEAD on 1st May 1946 in Richmond in Surrey and died on 21st November 1971 in Chertsey in Surrey.

Their parents John Alexander and Jean Kerr BOGIE both died in Glasgow in Scotland on 27th March 1952 and 2nd July 1952 respectively.

If you have a connection to the BOGIE family please send me a message, as it would be fantastic to reunite this lovely old photograph with its original family if possible.

Many thanks

Simon LAST

http://www.charnwood-genealogy.com

charnwoodresearch@virginmedia.com

Posted in One Name Study, Scotland, Old Photograph, GRAY, Guild of One Name Studies, BOGIE, PLUMSTEAD, LLOYD, Kilwinning, Ayrshire | 2 Comments

Are you related to the GRACEY or KILLEY Families from Bristol and Liverpool?

Finally at the weekend I was able to visit my first Postcard Fair in person since December 2019 – travelling down to Woking in Surrey from Essex I was full of anticipation of what I might be able to find to research and write about on my blog.

I was not disappointed as many dealers had large ‘Social History’ sections of old photographic postcards and it did not take me long to start finding ones with clues on the back – the first one of which I have now researched as follows:

This lovely old photographic postcard shows a gentleman with three children and when I turned it over there was lots of information written on the back…

William Bruce Whitla GRACEY aged 7 years, Margaret Patricia GRACEY aged 5 years and Lavender Ann GRACEY aged 1 year with their Grandfather George D KILLEY August 1918 – wow what a starting point!!

I knew that as the children were all young in 1918 I would need to go forward before researching back in time, so I started by looking at the 1939 World War 2 Registers, as below, and found the GRACEY family living at 5 The Avenue in Bristol – father James W GRACEY aged 55 born on 7th July 1884, Violet Charrier GRACEY also aged 55 born on 5th January 1884, Margaret Patricia GRACEY aged 26 born on 1st September 1913, Lavender Ann GRACEY aged 22 born on 12th August 1917 – James’s occupation is Haven Master Port of Bristol.

Also living with them is a Monica Annette GRACEY aged 22 – this is their daughter in law Monica Annette CLOVER who married their son William Bruce Whitla GRACEY in the April quarter of 1939 in Cheltenham Registration District.

I then found James Whitla and Violet Charrier GRACEY on the 1911 census, as below, living at 16 Adelaide Terrace in Waterloo Liverpool – James’s occupation is given as Hydrographical Surveyor and Salvage Office and he had been married to Violet for less than one year. James was born in Letter Kenny in Dinegal in Ireland and Violet was born in Waterloo in Liverpool.

Source Citation: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1911 Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census

James Whitla GRACEY married Violet Charrier KILLEY in the July quarter of 1910 in the West Derby Registration District – on the 1901 census, as below. Violet Charrier KILLEY was living, aged 17, with her parents George Deane KILLEY and Mary Jane Simpson KILLEY – her father as shown in the photograph with the children was ‘Living on own means’.

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3444; Folio: 71; Page: 35 Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1901 England Census

I also found the Master Mates certificate for James Whitla GRACEY dated 22nd November 1906, as below:

George Deane KILLEY died on 28th April 1928 in Lancashire ten years after the photograph was taken and his wife Mary Jane Simpson KILLEY died on 20th December 1945 in Bristol.

James Whitla GRACEY died on 22nd December 1969 at 28 Pembroke Road in Clifton in Bristol and his wife Violet Charrier GRACEY nee KILLEY died on 20th February 1968, also in Bristol.

William Bruce Whitla GRACEY died in April 1988 aged 76 in Somerset and his wife Monica Annette GRACEY nee CLOVER died in July 1984 aged 67, also in Somerset.

If you have a connection to the GRACEY or KILLEY families please contact me as it would be great to reunite this lovely old photograph with a family member if possible.

Many thanks

Simon LAST

charnwoodresearch@virginmedia.com

http://www.charnwood-genealogy.com

Posted in Bristol, Donegal, GRACEY, IRELAND, KILLEY, Letter Kenny, Liverpool, Old Photograph, Somerset, WHITLA | Leave a comment

Are you related to the MAPPIN or RIDSDEL families from Essex?

A lovey friend recently sent me this interesting old postcard from Gretna Green to investigate – it shows the marriage details for Hector Graeme MAPPIN from the Parish of St Andrews who married Olive Emily RISDEL from Downham in Essex on 22nd April 1929, witnessed by Elizabeth and Mary Murray LITTLE both from Carlisle.

It is a great family record signed by both Hector and Olive and it would be fantastic to reunite it with family member if possible – I have discovered some more details as below:

I have found a marriage registration for Hector and Olive in the April quarter of 1929 in the Billericay in Essex Registration District, so did they marry in Essex and then travel to Gretna Green while on honeymoon?

I have found Hector and Olive MAPPIN on the 1939 Register both aged 30 living in Chelmsford in Essex, as below, but Olive’s surname has been later amended to CUFFE. Olive was born on the 24th May 1909 and Hector on the 5th August 1909.

Source Citation: The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1939 Register; Reference: RG 101/1565B Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1939 England and Wales Register

The 1911 census, as below, shows Olive Emily RIDSDEL aged one born in Bramhall in Cheshire living at 171 Venner Road in Sydenham in Kent with parents Ernest and Lilian RIDSDEL and sibling William Bramwell RIDSDEL aged one, a twin of Olive – her father’s occupation is Secretary to a Limited Company.

Source Citation: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1911 Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census

Olive Emily MAPPIN nee RIDSDEL married Ian D CUFFE in the October quarter of 1945 in the Surrey SW Registration District – more investigation needed to see if Hector had died in World War 2?

Do you have a connection to the MAPPIN, RIDSDEL or CUFFE names, if you do please send me an email as it would be great to reunite this lovely old item with it’s original family if possible.

Thank you

Simon LAST

charnwoodresearch@virginmedia.com

http://www.charnwood-genealogy.com

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Are you related to Francis Edward CARTWRIGHT from Bromley-By-Bow in London?

I have recently been sent this great old football team photograph by a lovely friend who knows how much I enjoy researching old postcards and images, especially if there is a clue on the back like there is with this one!!

On the back of the photograph is written Francis Edward CARTWRIGHT, No, 8 Washington Street, Bromley-By-Bow, London – could I find a match to him? There is more information about Bromley-By-Bow here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromley-by-Bow

I started by looking at the 1911 census records and searching by street name and quickly struck lucky finding a match to the CARTWRIGHT family living at 8 Washington Street in Bromley-By-Bow – the family consisted of mother Emily CARTWRIGHT a widow aged 44 and children Francis CARTWRIGHT aged 21, Emmeline Maud CARTWRIGHT aged 19 and Maud Agnes CARTWRIGHT aged 17, as below, Francis’s occupation is given as Engineer Storekeeper :

Source Citation: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1911 Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census

Using this information I then found the CARTWRIGHT family on the 1901 census living at 8 Washington Street, as below, showing parents Francis and Emily CARTWRIGHT aged 41 and 34 with children Francis aged 11, Emmeline aged 9, Maud aged 7, Rosina aged 4 and Henry aged 3 – also living with them was Grandfather Francis CARTWRIGHT aged 61 – the occupation for father Francis CARTWRIGHT is shown as a Nail MAKER.

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 344; Folio: 21; Page: 34 Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1901 England Census

From this information I then found the baptism record, as below, for Francis Edward CARTWRIGHT on 29th March 1891 in the Parish of Bromley St Leonard, which confirmed Francis’s birth date as 27th September 1889.

Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives; London, England; Reference Number: p88/mry2/011 Source Information: Ancestry.com. London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917

Francis’s father Francis CARTWRIGHT married Emily Jane BAILEY on the 16th October 1887 at All Saints Church in West Ham in Essex.

Using this date of birth and the looking at the photograph of the football team my best date estimate is approximately 1905, so could I discover any more information about this.

Knowing very little about football I looked at Wikipedia to see what years a lot of the London Football Clubs started and was found that many were founded in the 1890’s as per the information on this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_in_London

I also found similar old football team photographs, so I am hoping that someone might be able to identify the football tops in my photograph of Francis Edward CARTWRIGHT to help me further as it is very similar to this one https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/history-bromley-football-club-1892-160703849

I need to investigate Francis further after the 1911 census, but I have found his mother Emily CARTWRIGHT aged 73 and still a widow living with children Emmeline aged 47, Rosina aged 42 and Arthur aged 38 – they are living in Ilford in Essex.

Source Citation: The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1939 Register; Reference: RG 101/1090A Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1939 England and Wales Register

I now need to investigate the later life of Francis Edward CARTWRIGHT and will update you again in due course – however if anyone has a family link to him or his family or knows anything about the football connection please send me an email as it would be great to hear from you

Many thanks for reading…

Simon LAST

charnwoodresearch@virginmedia.com

http://www.charnwood-genealogy.com

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UPDATE – Photo Reunited: Are you connected to the GOATER, KING or PINK families from the Isle of Wight?

UPDATE: This lovely old wedding photograph has now been reunited with Jeanette a member of the GOATER family who contacted me after ‘googling’ her family surnames on the internet and finding my blog post – Jeanette’s Grandmother Ellen GOATER was the sister of Elizabeth Ann GOATER, the bride in the photograph, who married Thomas Frederick KING.

Ellen GOATER married Edmund George HIND in Newton Abbott in Devon on 21st June 1916 and had nine children, one of whom is Jeanette’s mother.

Jeanette has never seen this old photograph before and is so pleased to be able to put faces to names on her GOATER family tree.

Simon

14th September 2021

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I found a fantastic old wedding photograph, as below, on eBay this week which had lots of fascinating information written on the back, which would hopefully enable me to research it further – therefore how could I resist it!!

The writing on the reverse, as below, states that the photograph shows:

Mum and Dad’s Wedding Group – Elizabeth ANN GOATER to Thomas Frederick KING on 18th April 1902 written by Elise May PINK (Daughter)

Also in the wedding group are Dad’s two sisters, Mum’s brother in the centre and Dad’s Brother in Law is the other man.

Elsie May PINK is the wife of Wilfrid John PINK and mother of Sylvia Ann PINK

Surely with all this super information I could find enough further records to reunite this beautiful old photograph with a family member!!

Elizabeth Ann GOATER was born in the September quarter of 1881 and her birth was registered in the Isle of Wight Registration District – the 1891 census, as below, shows her aged aged 9 living in Freshwater on the Isle of Wight with her father Henry GOATER aged 45, her mother Ellen aged 32 and siblings George aged 13, Kate aged 7, Frank aged 5, Alice aged 3 and Ellen aged 1.

Source Citation: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1891; Class: RG12; Piece: 897; Folio: 111; Page: 25; GSU roll: 6096007 Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1891 England Census

This means that George or Frank must be Mum’s brother shown in the wedding group photograph – in 1902 George would have been aged 24 and Frank aged 16, so I think it most likely to be George GOATER.

Thomas Frederick KING was born in the June quarter of 1881 also on the Isle of Wight and the 1891 census, as below, shows him aged 10 living with his father William KING aged 40, his mother Ellen aged 49 and siblings George aged 14, John aged 12, Florence aged 7 and May aged 4.

Source Citation: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1891; Class: RG12; Piece: 897; Folio: 23; Page: 8; GSU roll: 6096007 Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1891 England Census

Florence and May must be Dad’s two sisters shown in the wedding group and they would have been aged 18 and 15 in 1902.

The 1911 census, as below, shows Thomas Frederick KING aged 30 living with his wife Elizabeth Ann KING aged 30 and children Wilfred George aged 8, Reginald John aged 8, Lilian Ellen aged 5 and Elsie May aged 4 – also staying with them was Dad’s brother John Isaac KING aged 32. The family were living at the Causeway Cottages in Freshwater on the Isle of Wight – here is some more information and history of Freshwater https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freshwater,_Isle_of_Wight

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 5776; Schedule Number: 52 Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census

The daughter Elsie May KING shown in this census would be Elsie May PINK who wrote all the information on the reverse of the wedding group photograph – Elsie May KING married Wilfrid John PINK on 30th October 1937 in Redhill in Surrey, as per the marriage register entry below.

Source Citation: Surrey History Centre; Woking, Surrey; Surrey Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: P49/100/1/15 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Surrey, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937

Sadly I have discovered that the Groom in the photograph Thomas Frederick KING died in the October quarter of 1926 on the Isle of Wight aged only 45 – his wife Elizabeth Ann KING nee GOATER died aged 77 in the July quarter of 1958 with her death registered in the Southampton Registration District.

It would be wonderful to reunite this lovely old wedding photograph so if you have a family connection to the GOATER, KING or PINK families please send me an email or drop me a message as I would love to hear from you.

Many thanks

Simon LAST

charnwoodresearch@virginmedia.com

http://www.charnwood-genealogy.com

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Continuation: Great Grandmother Edith Rosa SINCLAIR research and links to the BOYS and POULETT families

Back in 2017 I wrote two blog posts about smashing my own ‘Brick Wall’ into my missing Great Grandmother Edith Rosa SINCLAIR and the connections I had finally made into her mother Clara Martha BOYS and her family – however I had been unable to make any links to the SINCLAIR surname.

Previous blog post link https://charnwoodgenealogy.wordpress.com/2017/01/14/update-have-i-finally-smashed-my-own-brick-wall-missing-great-grandmother/

Edith Rosa SINCLAIR my Great Grandmother and my Grandmother Doris Edith Crisp SINCLAIR

I took an Ancestry DNA test in the hope that this might provide some additional information and help me to discover more about these links – however although I have had many DNA links all the confirmed ones so far have been through my father’s LAST and DIX lines and my mother’s Polish BIALOSIEWICZ family.

Therefore I have been drawn back into the paper records again to reexamine all the information I already had and to see if any new documents have appeared in the meantime.

On my Great Grandmother Edith Rosa SINCLAIR’s birth certificate in 1881 her father was named as William Henry SINCLAIR a Lamp maker and her mother as Clara Martha SINCLAIR formerly BOYS – their address was shown as 3 Garden Row in Kennington Park Road in Lambeth – as already mentioned in my earlier blog post I had also found a half-sister for Edith called Alice Clara BOYS whose father was named as William Henry POULETT a Gentleman and her mother as Clara Martha BOYS and she was living at the same address 3 Garden Row, Kennington Park Road in Lambeth.

Edith Rosa SINCLAIR birth certificate 5th November 1881 father William Henry SINCLAIR

Alice Clara BOYS birth certificate 20th July 1868 father William Henry POULETT

These two daughters were born born thirteen years apart but both father’s has the same christian names William Henry – was this just a coincidence and I could find no evidence of a marriage of Clara Martha BOYS to a William Henry SINCLAIR between 1868 and 1881.

I then decided to investigate the name William Henry POULETT further, although as I know not a direct ancestor of mine, the fact that his occupation was a Gentleman would hopefully narrow down the research.

The only William Henry POULETT that I could find to possibly match came as a bit of a shock as he was an Earl and Peer of the Realm born about 1827 and who died in 1899 aged 72 – he married three times and had several children by his wives, however I could find non evidence of Clara Martha BOYS having worked for him using the census records.

On the 1871 census Clara was aged 25 and working as a Mantle Maker living with her mother Martha BOYS a Laundress and her two year old daughter Alice Clara living at 3 Garden Row – did Clara know William Henry POULETT.

William Henry POULETT had married his second wife Emma Sophia JOHNSON in July 1871 not long after his first wife Elizabeth Lavinia NEWMAN had died – his second wife Emma died in 1876 and he married for a third time in 1879 to Rosa MELVILLE – had he some how known Clara in 1867 to conceive Alice and would her mother have put her father’s name in full if she had not been certain it was him!!

I ordered the Will for William Henry POULETT after he died in 1899 to see if it held any additional clues, but unfortunately as expected it did not and I then decided to look at the old newspapers online.

I found two very interesting articles, as below, about the POULETT Peerage in 1899 and the headline on one was POULETT Earldom – Organ Grinder as Claimant – this referred to William Henry POULETT’s son William Turnour Thomas POULETT by his first wife whose legitimacy was in dispute – it would therefore seem that during his life and after his death there was lots of analysis of his wives and children.

Lloyd’s Weekly Newspaper – Sunday 29th January 1899

Graphic – Saturday 4th February 1899

I cannot prove that there is a definite link to the POULETT family and as my DNA will not be a match in any way, I will probably never know, but it is a fascinating story and would be amazing to have family links to nobility somewhere in the family tree!!

If any new evidence does come to light I will post a new update accordingly.

Simon LAST

charnwoodresearch@virginmedia.com

http://www.charnwood-genealogy.com

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